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Brackets from seven to four and has a big healthy dose of populism on top in terms of wiping out taxes for the low income earners, taxing hedge fund managers and punishing companies that go do business in mexico and china. this is a very populous plan that sort of covers up a conventional republican tax agenda and i think it's kind of interesting because it's almost establishment, right? you have outsiders talking about flat tax, fair tax, rand paul putting out a plan that balances the budget and going this very traditional route. >> john, amanda used the p word, she said it's populous. that s...

Trump likes this for a number of reasons. number one, talking about donald trump, not ben carson's rise and not talking about carly fiorina's rise and donald trump. number two, the next debate is on cnbc, donald trump did well on the first debate, not so well on the second, heading into the third more of a player and more center stage and more of a driving force in the race and as he said to erin burnett, this is in his wheelhouse. as this gets analyzed, there will be people who say it explodes the deficit. people will say you never get the economic growth you want for it. we'll see how it pla...

I've been through a couple races myself so i have some experience with this, but i wanted to get back to a point amanda made. i think that i would disagree that this is really a establishment plan. i like the idea of the populace notion here. in my day job, that title comes professor of economics so i put it through a couple of my simplistic models and looks to me like we'll be able to balance the budget a lot sooner than people think if we have good budget discipline and take a look at the spending we're doing now. so adisagrees. >> because he's betting on 3% and 6% growth in order to recover...