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That the "e" in e-mail stands for evidence. it obviously doesn't but this is the kind of concrete sort of evidence and then you sort of juxta pose these e-mails with what we've heard from top white house officials, vice president pennsylvania, obviously the president as well denying this. you have these e-mails. so it really takes the wind out of that argument that we've heard from a lot of the president's allies and obviously the president as well. >> he did use the word witch hunt again. >> he's going to keep going back to that. >> that's what i want to read, david druker. i want to read you...

>> you know, look, i think biden actually responded yesterday in the paper with a point by point analysis, three-pronged analysis of what the stimulus is doing. what it has done, what it is doing now and what it still has yet to do. i think he now disagrees with you. having said that you truly believe the stimulus plan is a failure, the first one? >> i do. the sense was to get the most money into the economy as possible. the reason for that is otherwise you get a downward spiral that feeds itself on the way down. it becomes much more difficult to turn the economy around the deeper it goes onin...