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Turn the tv off, god forbid, but at a certain point you have to go back to your regular programming in up life and not become obsessed and preoccupied with this. >> and, doris, people feel terrorized, whether it was the sniper case in washington, d.c., and the area a couple years ago or a city like boston, virtually shut down for a period of time. people, you know, told to stay in their homes. is that a culture moving to resilience or defiance or locked in a state of siege? >> i'm an optimist to say it's still moving to defiance and resilience. even as they were catching the second suspect, th...

Something with nothing. they prudently said, well, there's nothing to see here at this point. now, remember, he then left and traveled and came back. now that's a different place. they had no further information indicating that until, of course, after the event itself. that's important to do, but i think they were very prudent and very thorough by my review of what happened prior to his travel. >> pete williams, it's important to underscore what was underscored to me by intelligence officials, federal officials the last couple of days, talking about what they call an american person. the young...

And so you can't ask them to do something with nothing. they prudently said, well, there's nothing to see here at this point. now, remember, he then left and traveled and came back. now that's a different place. they had no further information indicating that until, of course, after the event itself. that's important to do, but i think they were very prudent and very thorough by my review of what happened prior to his travel. >> pete williams, it's important to underscore what was underscored to me by intelligence officials, federal officials the last couple of days, talking about what they ca...

>> definitely. >> i spoke to an educator this week who talked about how the anxiety level among parents is just off the chart. part of his point was, that has to be dialed back. people have to get right with the fact that you live in a society that protects freedoms to the point it makes us more vulnerable in some ways, and some things you just cannot prevent. >> look, i go back to this central point, how many people have died in terror attacks in the last 12 years in america, 9/11 was nominalist. and we've had many attempts -- most of the attempts fail. most of the terrorists are bad at terro...

North caucasus, you would want our foreign capabilities focused on hip. they're going to make sure a ball wasn't dropped either domestically or overseas. >> mike leiter, concerned about that? >> it's not the clear to me that the report to the fbi said he was associated with a terrorist group. he might have been radicalized but that's very different and might raise a -- if not yellow flag but i don't think a red flag to the fbi. >> chairman rogers, you've been an fbi agent. you are now chair of the intelligence committee. was something missed here? >> well, we looked at and talked about what ex...