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To authorize everything that they want to do when they want to do it. you use your good offices in your power, your compelance not to get dirt on joe biden but to effect a situation that benefits all of your interests. and you have to deal with damascus, too. the kurds were working out a deal with assad in damascus. a deal not unlike they worked out in baghdad, the iraqi kurds worked out in baghdad. that's to have some autonomy. right now the best part of iraq is the northern part where the kurds are. baghdadis go to sulmonia to vaxvax vacation. assad will be takie ining advan of that and won'...

Term, hard core defense of donald trump and anyone who's trying to change that, it seems they're going to fail. >> this sends a clear message of everyone at fox news. you may want to think again. >> occasionally there is criticism of trump's policies. you can't tell fundamental truth about donald trump on fox news. you can't talk about how he's a liar, a racist and clearly an unstable individual. now shep was not doing that on a daily bases. he was certainly tipped to a key line which is trump lies about everything all the time. now, shep's show represented kind of a window within fox news int...

And brechbuhl, a counselor to the state department and bill taylor who's the ambassador to ukraine. those are all on the dock ketel mar docket, do you expect those people will show? >> sondland is supposed to appear on thursday under subpoena. he could not testify. let's remember that sondland who's the u.s. ambassador to the eu was a millionaire donor to the trump campaign. that's an important thing to remember. th it is not like i think we'll get everything from sondland. he's going to say when bill taylor who's the acting to ukraine. when taylor texted him in text

Publ publ publiculation on fox. he announces on national television of his resignation. he goes out the side door and never speak to ts to the newsro. s t it was very chaotic. we learned something of the trump's year. everything is a conspiracy and everything is on the table. the united states' attorney applied pressure to get someone fired from a tv show. >> we'll look at the timeline right now. this is shepard smith/tucker carlson feud began on september 25. same wednesday, barr met with

Contempt on the floor of the house. we'll try again with bill barr. i think that at this point everything is a corollary to this case of ukraine that's unfolding in front of us. i don't think we should get too distracted because this is something that the american people see right now. at the same time you are pointing out very, very important problems with how the trump s are abusing his power. >> always great to talk to you. thank you very much. >> thank you, more "a.m. joy" after the break. "a.m. joy" after the break.