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Unimaginable work for most of us of defending your country from a superior power, zelenskyy is very much acting in the churchillian tradition. churchill didn't come to the united states during world war ii until december 1941, after both pearl harbor and hitler's declaration of war on the united states. it was at that point fdr said to them we're all in the same boat now, and it was a boat, like zelenskyy, churchill had been in largely alone since the spring of 1940. and we had been fighting this battle that we're fighting again. this is the thing to think about today, and tomorrow, as people ...

They were duped which meant they were kind of soft liberals who tonight really realize they were being but probably case of harry hopkins probably case off harry henrypr wallace a lot of times worse damage is caused not by a guy who is direct ily working as a undercover agent feeding information to other side but guys who are clueless. >> and investigative journalist? >> well they were or worshiping fdr, i mean if they could have -- if there would be a progressive mount rushmore fdr would be first up there.re every ranking by presidential historian of the greatest president of all tile he's in...

They were soft liberals who do not realize they were being -- which is probably the case of harry hopkins. probably fdr's vice president and a lot of times the worst damage is caused not by a guy who's directly working as an undercover agent feeding information to the other side but by guys who were clueless. mark: but where were the investigative journalist back then? >> they were worshiping fdr. if they could have if there was a progressive mount rushmore fdr would be the first had chiseled up there. every ranking by presidential historian said the greatest presidents. mark: he's always in t...

Influence or duped which meant they were soft liberals who do not realize they were being -- which is probably the case of harry hopkins. probably fdr's vice president and a lot of times the worst damage is caused not by a guy who's directly working as an undercover agent feeding information to the other side but by guys who were clueless. mark: but where were the investigative journalist back then? >> they were worshiping fdr. if they could have if there was a progressive mount rushmore fdr would be the first had chiseled up there. every ranking by presidential historian said the greatest pre...