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Between the witness and gaetz's ex-girlfriend. at some point gaetz joined. we don't know what was discussed on the call, but what is the potential obstruction here? what does this mean, this phone call and so on? >> if he tried to tell a witness who was about to speak to federal investigators to withhold information, to change her story, to even delay talking to investigators -- >> so this is -- hold on. this is the same witness that we talked about? this isn't a different witness, correct? is this the one that's in question? >> this is a witness that knows the 17-year-old girl and is friends ...

Contains a lot of salacious allegations. but it is more than that. potential witness tampering, potential theft. after all, joel greenberg has pled guilty tom. finance violations and then the trim to the bahamas which could lead to pay to pay bribery. so a lot of headaches ahead for matt gaetz. >> this is politico's reporting that investigators are looking at a phone call he had with a witness in the sex crimes investigation. the call reportedly originated between the witness and gaetz' ex-girlfriend. at some point gaetz joined. we don't know what was discussed on the call. what is the potenti...

>> i'm not sure your zoom connection is the best. we're not getting the best connection here. at this point gaetz is going around the country with the qanon lady as if nothing is wrong. he's acting like it's all good. obviously she's his ally and qanon weirdly enough likes him although he's being accusd of the thing that's central to their argument in the world. the part about how close they were and how he helped build desantis and his political alliances, his donors, that he's advised desantis. he's been very instrumental in desantis' rise. desantis has been pretty quiet about him. he's been...