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To think that comey is moses, and i happen to think that comey is judas. >> why wouldn't you say, go in, talk to robert mueller, tell the truth? >> because i wouldn't be an attorney if i did that. i would be living in that fantasy world that everybody tells the truth. what do you think about what giuliani has to say, that it's potentially a trap? he said they could have -- i'm quoting now -- built-up, manipulat manipulated. and he could be vulnerable to false statements or perjury. i think the bigger problem is it's just very difficult to prepare a client like president trump to make sure he a...

Joining me this sunday. i'm fredricka whitfield. if the president's new attorney intended to make the rounds on sunday's talk shows to straighten things out, that might have been backfired. there are even more questions now about what giuliani called a nuisance payment to stormy daniels and possibly to others, quoting, if necessary. and him saying trump might refuse to comply with a possible mueller subpoena. take a listen. >> so the president does deny any sexual relationship with stormy daniels? >> he has. i have not -- i'm not involved in that but the reality is he denies it. she denied it....

So slowly, they can transition him out of the process. >> at this point giuliani is really doing a pr campaign, even though he seems like he would have the background to pull the legal team together. he's not doing that. he's doing a gam par basis. >> he has mo-- question remains. will the president meet with the special counsel in the investigation? and why giuliani believes it would be a perjury trap. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job