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Think that the significance of ty cobb's statement if that's what you're referring to -- >> but finding out if the president knew -- this is an interesting point heidi raised. we know that flynn was fired because pence was kept in the dark and pence was mad and the president stood by his vp. we never learned whether or not donald trump was blindsided by any of this information. >> and that is something mueller is going to be interested in. what did donald trump know about what mike flynn was doing? was there discussions that if mike flynn was fired that he might reveal what the president knew?...

Exercise, he did not think he was going to win the election. the second part of this incredible and constantly growing story is that if you -- and i've spoken to several people in washington over the past several days, the focus -- the principal focus of the mueller special prosecutor's team now is indeed russia and one of the keys is general flynn and his role in pulling together the administration prior to the inauguration and it has to do with the sanctions imposed on russia and if they can tilt flynn, if they can flip him, the president indeed will be under oath and it will not be law scho...