CNN CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera September 29, 2019 21:21:00
But also the other things, too, we don't know what rudy giuliani said. there's more to come, but so r far, the central piece of evidence is very, very d aramni. >> michael, you say the president in his defense of trying to confuse and distract is working. explain. >> i think it's working to the extent there's a lot of confusion out there. and most of the defense we hear from not just the president but from others like mr. giuliani or from members of the congress is just smoke. just there to come fuse people and distract them. so the president might have crossed the line and did something wrong...