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Jamal in his time with me, he would bring up these figures. he would say these are people who supported mo ha med bin salem. a columnist who had critiques of the economic turn of saudi arabia has been locked up in a jail for a year charged with treason and terrorism. i know while jamal's murder, we're all focussing on that, it is happening across the region. lujain was picked up in uae and shipped back to saudi arabia. so the fact that this ally of ours is butchering people who even live abroad, detaining people, silencing people at all costs, should fundamentally make us rethink this relation...

Started out to be -- how that has gone down. he maybe thought that they would just be able to brush this away, brush it under the carpet. it certainly hasn't. there is now a threat to the kingdom of saudi arabia and to its reputation in the world, and we've got investors fleeing that conference next week, which was meant to be part of the great reform movement. so certainly damage to saudi arabia and the crown prince in particular. >> bill neely, thank you. "the washington post" where jamal khashoggi was a columnist continues to speed out. publisher fred ryan issued this statement. the gover...

Until we have a full account and full accountability, it cannot be business as usual with the saudi government. joining us now is a global opinions editor at "the washington post," a friend of jamal khashoggi and edited his columns for the paper. karen, thank you for joining me. i want to read a tweet of yours from this morning. what must not be lost in the pressure on saudi arabia is that the regime has disappeared or detained hundreds, if not thousands of people, including women's driving activist loujain and economist essam. this is a point jamal wrote to bring attention to. while there is ...

Vocalized something which is very true, that i think there are a lot of people who -- people who might have known jamal or been in his circles, and yet are sympathetic, at the very least perhaps are the ones that bought this reformer line hook, line and singer. they never said they were reformers. donald trump wanting to accept the line that mohamed bin sam, knew nothing about this, jamal was close with the system, with the royal family told me at some point, nothing especially of this nature, private planes -- nothing happens with mohammed bin salem knowing. jamal himself knew and told me tha...