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And then the second meeting. >> and you paint this picture of gordon sondland, his efforts early on, he's often the pointman on that ukraine pressure? >> that's right. i think this week is going to be incredibly interesting. we have him coming in for impeachment hearing on wednesday, it's sort of up in the air how he'll perform. most people we've spoken to have said that he's quick tempered, quick to anger, and is sort of emotional on this subject. he's worked incredibly difficult according to sources we've talked to to get the meeting going between president trump and zelinsky at the white ho...

In that hearing with marie yovanovitch when the president, in real time, took after her as well. two women attacked by the president over the course of the last three days, marie yovanovitch and jennifer williams, her impression of the july 25th call was both unusual and inappropriate. gordon sondland, you are correct, this is the testimony that most people are looking towards here, because this is an individual who does have firsthand knowledge, who was the president's point man, along with kurt volker, another individual we'll hear from in public this week before the house intelligence commi...

The president. of course, we saw mick mulvaney admit it. you'll see witnesses on the phone call, as you point out. mr. morrisson and you're going to see others. >> so sondland, larson, and mindland will directly bring it to the president that the president was the one giving the orders that was carried out. >> you're going to see all those witnesses say i heard it with my own ears. i hear the telephone call with the zelensky. that's morrisson. remember vindman reported it. >> she did. but larson did not. >> larson went to legal and he was more focussed on restricting access to the call. they b...

Issues with biden's son being on the board of a ukraine company, thus there was a legitimate corruption concern for the president to raise it. listen. >> they are blind blaring signs of corruption, surrounding biden's position on the board while his fare served as vice president and point man for ukraine. >> side point. if it was that obvious, the republicans were in power in congress at that time. they were not exactly shy about investigating things, but here ago the big problem with the argument. it ignores how trump went about this legit question of corruption in such a non-legit way. if yo...

President to raise it. listen. >> they are blind to tblaring s of corruption, surrounding biden's position on the board while his fare served as vice president and point man for ukraine. >> side point. if it was that obvious, the republicans were in power in congress at that time. they were not exactly shy about investigating things, but here ago the big problem with the argument. it ignores how trump went about this legit question of corruption in such a non-legit way. if you think that biden was dirty, you go to bill barr, the attorney general and say, take a look. okay, you don't want to do...