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You're saying he's betting on something. i don't know what a bet is. >> okay, look -- >> he's doing his job. >> maybe he doesn't know he's betting. i'm tell you, maybe he didn't know it. he's risked the credibility of his investigation by going this far and this aggressively and this dramatically because if he doesn't find something, the rest of what he's trying to do -- he may find something later. the president is going to be able to credibly say they went after my personal lawyer, tried to get into my privilege with my lawyer and they didn't find anything? that's going to have credibility w...

Agents know about the information they seem to be seeking. so that is first. the second thing i'll say is, when this investigation started, the one crime that we knew had been committed was that somebody had hacked the dnc mails. before we knew there was an obstruction of justice or before it happened and before we knew what flynn did or didn't say and who he didn't meet with -- the ambassador, but we knew the dnc had been hacked and we also knew that the e-mails that had been hacked had been released. so we have crime -- two crimes and now several months later the special agent are talking to...

At that point mueller had only been appointed a few weeks prior. so a source tells us it was white house counsel don mcgahn who refused to order the justice department to fire mueller, but the threat to actually resign, mcgahn didn't make it directly to the president. mcgahn refused the president's call because we know he disagreed with president trump's reasoning. so the president had expressed concern about three possible conflicts of interest. first, the special counsel had actually been a member of the trump golf club in sterling, virginia, but then we know that robert mueller left the clu...

He breaking developments in the russia investigation. pete williams is in our washington bureau. and you have confirmed now this morning that the attorney general went and sat for an interview with the special counsel's investigators? >> right. did so last week. and it lasted several hours. we're told that he had a lawyer with him. we assume that that lawyer was chuck cooper, a former justice department official. during the reagan administration. who has been seen publicly with sessions in some of his hears in con. and it is pretty clear that jeff sessions has retained jeff cooper as a lawyer ...

Will be in front of the house. that gives them even more leverage with the house because if there were a dispute over executive privilege it would take months to resolve if it went to court and at that point mueller could be so far out in front that it becomes irrelevant. they are going to have to take what they get and move forward. >> harris: i want to get onto fusion gps and a second but a last question about all of this, what happens next with the robert mueller investigation in terms of steve bannon, corey lewandowski, whoever else mueller wants to call. as he also had to get that approva...