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Somebody like sherrod brown could be capable of doing that. >> working class, recession. >> i wouldn't rule out amy klobuchar and some of the other democrats as being able to reach those voters as well. your thoughts? >> to john's point ohio went about ten points for trump and then brown won it comfortably, six points or so. he's got that feel. i've long thought that hillary clinton's best running mate in 2016 would have been -- >> absolutely. because he went to yale and he doesn't let it show. he has that working guy's gruff voice, comes off as a labor kind of guy. be solid on the social issu...

Pennsylvania, donald trump has a problem. the hill is steep. not as steep as a few days ago. >> and still north carolina, ohio, critically important. hillary clinton wins one of those three, she's well on her way. >> no question. the map showed that clearly. florida and north carolina, particularly north carolina, will be the one we'll end up watching late into election night. ohio is interesting to me. early in the general election, the democrats, hillary clinton aides privately were saying they didn't -- thought ohio was gone. with the kind of republican they were running against, with the m...