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Seem to have done here was have regular contact with him during the course of the campaign. that's what's so unusual. >> when you had these meetings with foreign officials or ambassadors, would it be normal to report to the state department, hey, i had these meetings? >> yeah, you would make sure that the government understood what you were doing so there is no misunderstanding and we made a regular practice of doing that. >> you want a full-scale investigation to determine what happened in these communications and contacts. let me read what senator rand paul said about that. i just don't thin...

Altercation to begin with? >> i do. i think it's a huge issue. i think an overly legal conversation, i don't think most prosecutors in the country would be a bit surprised these cops were not indicted but that shouldn't be what the conversation is about. the black community doesn't want to hear point scoring and sort of, you know, how technical legal stuff is important. you have to disprove a case beyond the reasonable doubt when police are involved, which makes it virtually impossible. i don't think this is a day to get overly legal, though. we need to find a -- >> i appreciate that. i want t...

And the concern is always that officers are using force because they have the ability to use the force and the authorization to use the force rather than there actually being absolute necessary to use the force. that's what we need to look at. that doesn't have to be done by point scoring or political ideology. there's ways to protect police officers given them maximum protection and also never having a repeat of a situation where basically somebody ended up dead for a tax crime, for a few cents of tax revenue. there are policy issues and all that. but nobody should be celebrating this. this i...

For one israeli soldier a few years ago. european governments paid over $100 million in ransom to al qaeda affiliates. and this goes beyond this one case. we need to kind of get control of these ungoverned spaces. i was held in this safe area the taliban have in pakistan. why didn't the pakistani army which we have given $15 billion in aid since 9/11, why wasn't there more of an effort to find me. why wasn't there more effort to find bowe bergdahl. they've reduced the safe havens and reduced the number of kidnappings, and we need that broad strategy, and to move beyond this constant, you know,...

The shooting are left wing lunatics, except we don't blame them. we blame the mental health system, we blame the individual. >> well, maybe we should blame the individual. when you look at the tragic roster, columbine, virginia tech, tucson, aurora, newtown, were these shooters trying to make a political statement or motivated by revenge or driven by zits schizophrenia? when jared loughner shot gabby giffords, someone tried to blame sarah palin for having put cross hair owes a map of gifford's district. i wrote that day that this was a sickening ritual of guilty by association. this isn't abou...