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Very close, in the margin of error, most of them, very close. romney has got to be happy about this. right? >> oh, yeah. when you are picking up ground and got independents by double digit margins in swing states that's enormous. to put it in a little context. obama won independent voters by will points in the exit polls in 2008. if romney has got 11 points in independents then that's huge. >> bill: 19 point swing. that's a big big swing. >> it's a huge swing. you know what? these voters are going to decide, you know, later on, i think, the independent voters are the ones that will make up the...

Very close, in the margin of error, most of them, very close. romney has got to be happy about this. right? >> oh, yeah. when you are picking up ground and got independents by double digit margins in swing states that's enormous. to put it in a little context. obama won independent voters by will points in the exit polls in 2008. if romney has got 11 points in independents then that's huge. >> bill: 19 point swing. that's a big big swing. >> it's a huge swing. you know what? these voters are going to decide, you know, later on, i think, the independent voters are the ones that will make up the...

Very close, in the margin of error, most of them, very close. romney has got to be happy about this. right? >> oh, yeah. when you are picking up ground and got independents by double digit margins in swing states that's enormous. to put it in a little context. obama won independent voters by will points in the exit polls in 2008. if romney has got 11 points in independents then that's huge. >> bill: 19 point swing. that's a big big swing. >> it's a huge swing. you know what? these voters are going to decide, you know, later on, i think, the independent voters are the ones that will make up the...

State and can have anywhere from 2 to 3 to 4 point swing in the election. and from what it might otherwise be. otherwise the state is about six points. so 3 or 4 point swing towards republicans. away from the democrats would put it in the republic column. >> bill: does it really matter, 10 electoral votes as opposed to florida's 29 and ohio, too. ohio is another one that romney has to carry. go ahead. >> yeah. well, look, the important thing is not just the home state. and it's not the electoral impact of the vice presidential running mate. that's generally nationwide about half a point and ge...

Wisconsin from a lean obama state which is where it is today to a toss up state. whether or not it is going to end up in the republican column we don't know. a vice presidential candidate has impact in the home state and can have any where from 2 to 3 to 4 point swing in an election from what it otherwise might be. right now the state is 6 points a 2 or 3 from republicans away from democrats would put it in the republican column. >> does it matter 10 electoral votes compared to florida's 29. ohio is another one romney has to carry. >> the important thing is not just the home state. it's not th...