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Life that you trust. you mentioned governor cuomo. i bet he has people surrounding him that he trusts. when you're in positions of authority, you have to. you've got to trust somebody. if you reach the point that you don't know who you can trust, then that impacts your ability to do the job. >> i hear you. >> and if i were the president, i would want to know who did this. >> let me ask you something -- >> now, that doesn't mean -- >> would you also take a look at why they said it, senator? if this happened to you, god forbid, on your staff, somebody came up and said something like this, wouldn...

Boss. what do you make of it? >> i've never worked for a president. i have worked for a governor. it's not the same thing, but the principle is the same. if i had ever reached the point that i was so angry or disappointed or unhappy with my boss -- >> mm-hmm. >> -- i would never have published something anonymously and tried to remain in my job. i would have quit. >> what if you wanted to give a message to people that you should know this is going on, but i can't leave. i need to be here. it's that vital. what do you think of that? >> i don't think anybody is that vital, and i think that if yo...

Did you see the list of the people who came out to say they didn't see this -- they didn't write this? look at all those people who felt it was necessary, nina, to come out and say, it wasn't me, boss. what does that tell you? >> true dat, chris. those should be the first people the president should look at. jason brings up a fair point. i worked for one of the mayors in the city of cleveland, and if you ever come to a point where you don't believe in an administration that much, you should absolutely leave. i think senator elizabeth warren brought up a good point that if enough of the cabinet...

Book. >> that's a fair point, yes. the short answer is yes. if a member of my staff did something like this and tried to remain anonymous, i would want to know who it was, but i would call in my staff and say, you know, speak truth to power here. tell me is this true. do you share in this opinion? i've never in my life fired anybody for telling me the truth, and i never will. >> well, we'll see what happens on this one. >> that's the way i approach it. it's worked for me. >> rand paul asking for lie detector tests. the libertarian rand paul wants lie detector tests in the white house to find t...

"settled law," also known as the unsettling notion of settled law. take a listen. >> that law is precedent of the supreme court. that's been around for a long time and has set the basics for the campaign finance framework. i said that it's settled as a precedent of the supreme court. >> you don't need to be a lawyer to get this. settled law means what it sounds like. the supreme court has decided. here's the thing. that answer is good if you're trying to get a seat on a lower court because those courts must follow the supreme court. it does not apply to the supreme court itself because they un...