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Perhaps this will spur them to keep following that path. but at some point a large manhattan law firm is going throw money like they haven't seen before and it is a tough thing the turn it down. i wasn't able to. >> is it a credit to the profession that we're talking about this among young lawyers as opposed to mba students or -- why is it the lawyers. >> with students who have been advocating for this is instead of studying for finals they were out on the streets and protesting and doing their things. and this i think another criticism is there's a lot of white students out there doing the sa...

You can't have that. you've got to get up off the mat and try your best. >> in the context of this debate, i looked at some interesting data. data i knew but it was interesting to see it represented in graph form. it talked about the elite law schools in the country and how few students come out of those law schools and pursue a public interest career. as a public defender. as a prosecutor, even. might the better message to the students who are so affected by this, pursue a career. don't go to a law school, don't go in a white-shoed firm. go in this direction. >> i wonder what their loan offic...