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You are the person who will shake things up. >> david brooks isn't here. >> we're relying on you. let's get to health care. we'll hear from kathleen sebelius in a few minutes. her first interview since resigning her post. mike murphy, i turn to you. but first ezra klein writing this, obamacare has won, and that's why secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius can resign. the evidence has piled up in recent weeks that the strategy worked. obamacare's first year despite a horrific start was a success. more than 7 million people looked to have signed up for health insurance through ...

Mike murphy i turn from you. but first ezra klein writing this, obamacare has won, and that's why secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius can resign. the evidence has piled up in recent weeks that the strategy worked. obamaca obamacare's first year despite a horrific start was a success. more than 7 million people looked to have signed up for health insurance through the exchanges. millions more have changed up through medicaid. millions beyond that have signed up for insurance through their employers. so the argument being, hey, good time to step down. >> well, it's a time ho...

Mike murphy i turn from you. but first ezra klein writing this, obamacare has won, and that's why secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius can resign. the evidence has piled up in recent weeks that the strategy worked. obamaca obamacare's first year despite a horrific start was a success. more than 7 million people looked to have signed up for health insurance through the exchanges. millions more have changed up through medicaid. millions beyond that have signed up for insurance through their employers. so the argument being, hey, good time to step down. >> well, it's a time ho...