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To the state department. there's this one very damning line in the torture report where, basically, an tern e internal c.i.a. memo, it says the white house says that colin powell should not be briefed about these things. he'll blow his stack if he is briefed. is it your sense that the state department department have the opportunity to opt out of knowing this information in the same way that other senior people of the administration did? >> that's fair. there's a technical point e point that is missed a little bit in senator finestein's regulation when she talks about covert actions. this's ac...

To the state department. there's this one very damning line in the torture report where, basically, an tern e internal c.i.a. memo it says the white house says that colin powell should not be briefed about these things. he'll blow his stack if he is briefed. is it your sense that the state department department have the opportunity to opt out of knowing this information in the same way that other senior people of the administration did? >> that's fair. there e there's a technical point e point that is missed a little bit in senator finestein's regulation when she talks about covert actions. th...