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Some have straight out said i think we should go with a white male and then you know, figure out what we want to do for the vp ticket. the key is to win and the policy discussionless come separately. the key, have someone with a personality to beat donald trump and i don't necessarily think a quote/unquote woman can do that, which is a dangerous conversation but one we need to have. >> beth to you on this. you've done election work in general. two things there. two points christina brings up. how much a factor is gender a factor in this upcoming election and secondly, will it come down to who ...

Having any conversation about beta o'rourke not including gillum and abrams. >> good point. thank you both, christina and curt sticking with me. coming up, president trump shutting down the government over his request for a border all. what else could that money buy? we made a list and that's next. t with up to 30 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals! ensure. for strength and energy.