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Florida and said i'm going to be around longer. looking at people, my grandchildren, and i want to able to tell them where i was in this moment. i actually think as people start to turn, that's the kind of messaging that will be effective. >> we have to take a quick break. we're going to be around for two hours at least. we'll take a look at why the president's biggest defenders are perhaps wrong to dismiss the testimony against him as hearsay. signal is here.s newest most pol experience it with the amazing, new iphone 11. and right now, t-mobile has the best deal on iphone. get 4 lines of unl...

Nice to have you both. austan, but let me start with you on whether you think zero tariffs both ways is an achievable goal and one that would be good for america. >> on all products, it would be good for america, but it's not fully achievable. i think what happened here, it's a little subtle, but it's smart. the european s looked at the ol experience of the companies when donald trump was kind of stomping around, tweeting about individual companies. and they announced things that they were already doing or that they already agreed to, as if they were new, so that the trump administration could...