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Corruption there and therefore we're not going do anything in afghanistan. that's not a policy answer either. so what you try to do is to press the afghan government and the afghan leaders to root out corruption. you try to give alternatives like decent economic growth and slowly but surely you begin to unwind the corruption that is there. >> i want to move to the wider picture here in terms of america's foreign policy. when it comes to iran and north korea, for example. explain to me the difference between the position on iraq, which as i understand it from you at the time, saddam hussein was...

Look what your regime is doing with your money. >> today, thanks to regime subsidies, the average hezbollah combatant makes two to three times what an iranian firefighter makes on the streets of iran. the bitter irony of the economic situation in iran is that the regime uses the same time to line its own pockets while its people cry out for jobs and reforms and opportunity. the iranian economy is going great, but only if you're a politically connected member of the elite. >> again, every administration since ronald reagan, the iran hostage crisis, has tried this. but it's worth trying, especia...

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Science grounds. it's very unusual for the secretary of state to talk about flat earthers and amazing if they had that much conviction about the people killed ensyria. if they would focus on the geneva talks. we were closing to an international agreement with climate change with the asian pacific region. there's no policy answer that john kerry is offering right now. >> bob, how do you explain that? of all the things in the world right now, john kerry figures this is the best thing to spend his time on? >> let me say, we get in fights about this, so let's say there are those of us who agree wi...

Number one, they decided to make fannie and freddie government sponsored entity. you can't go after them. they are hands off. they drew every bad mortgage in the country in that. >> andrea: isn't that why it shouldn't be the government getting involved in business? it wasn't looked at. it wasn't capitalized. >> dana: a well worn phrase is i didn't start this thing. i inherited this thing. going back several generations when it was started. now you're in a pickle because you have to let it all go and take as will on it or keep on funding it. what is interesting on both of these things is that i...