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Leaders. this is about a policy difference. and it's not about courage. i don't question anyone's courage on the other side of the aisle. i question your judgment. i don't question your courage. and i think that the american people are getting tired. and i say that because i have a friend from college, jim. and jim sent me a text. and just so you know a little bit about jim. his dad was a pastor south of the mason-dixon line in the '60s and '70s. jim doesn't vote for donald trump. he didn't vote for mitt romney. he didn't vote for john mccain. but jim sent me a text, and he said would you tell...

You said nothing about democrat leaders this is about a policy difference. and it's not about courage. i question your judgment. i don't question your courage. and i think that the american people are getting tired, and i say that because i have a friend from college, jim. and his dad was a pastor in the '60s and '70s who was a leader in the civil rights movement. he didn't vote for donald trump, didn't vote for mitt romney, didn't vote for john mccain. but jim sent me a text and he said would you tell your democrat colleagues that i'm voting for donald trump this next time around? and by the ...

Inflation is low. so long as you don't count the cost of education, health care, housing, the r very things that enable people to move on to a path of economic mobility. we talk about how unemployment is low. >> joe biden will say i'm not looking back. i'm still looking forward and i've got plans. i haven't seen the patrick plans laid out yet. where is your biggest policy difference with joe biden? on your approach to the economy? to health care? is it on your approach to student debt? tell me. >> i think that the difference is you'll see as we lay out a policy agenda that's about opportunity....

What we're doing. we're out talking with folks in the early states and elsewhere. and we're talking and listening to voters to make sure that the agenda that we are developing and that i have workeded on through much of f my professional career in and out of politics is in fact the agenda that will make a difference for folks today. >> what would you say is the biggest policy difference between you and joe biden right now? >> well, i think probably the biggest difference between us is philosophical. his approach seems to be nostalgia. backward looking. i think as much as i loved working alongs...

Korea, to go to school. >> politicians use their agenda as inherently politically beneficial but this is very different. this is actually taking the mechanisms, the resources of document and putting them to domestic political use. what separates the gallagher story is that it's so galling. it's so outrageous that it almost boggles the mind. it probably will fly for a vast majority of trump supporters who view this not as a military matter but a cultural matter. >> mattis redesigned over a policy difference over syria. how does esper not resign over the exploitation of servicemen? >> people con...