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Washington and playoff, gently, the people sitting in a room, and it's like these speeches are policy documents, that's exactly right. there are questions about health care and are they really going to try and repeal and replace the affordable care act right now. what are they going to do about taxes? what are they going to do about trade and other issues like that where congress is bumper caring, and spinning around, and so far has given campaign generalities, and these speeches, among other things in the past, in all administrations have been carefully fact checked and screened by policy exp...

Reports and i don't think that's true. i think if you start ascribing a moral intent to someone by saying that they lied i think you run the risk that you look like you're not being objective. >> i think that's interesting because you can say this is dem demonstrably untrue but when you go a step further and say he's lying doesn't that inscribe a moral intent that we don't know. >> lying is like the word divorce. you don't want to throw it around too loosely and yet with trump in particular he lies differently than past presidents have. the obama's administration's plan that you could keep you...

Speech at the dnc convention, i'm lebron, baby, play on this level, i've got some game. sounds like someone i know at "the cycle." as you write about the debate preparation in 2012, that was the strategy his team gave him in the first debate to go in with this confidence, it's not comparing yourself to romney, it's i'm the president and we're moving forward. we all saw how that happened. >> first debate was really interesting. it's rare you get -- normally you go try to find out what really went on. people will often pile onto the candidate because clearly he did not perform as well as anyone ...

Way. i played 4% a little while aago, he's now gone up to 6%. but the was a of management budget and congressional budget office both put us just over 6%. that's where the trend is headed anyway, right? >> if the economy were to pick up speed, absolutely. i think what you have to be concerned about there, is to map governor romney's policy agenda on to this unemployment number he has been throwing around. i mean if you just look at the supply side trickle down, regulatory stuff, that are in his policy documents, he doesn't side this stuff. it's exactly the policy set that got us into the mess ...

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