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>> don, i start with you. that letter was astonishing. we have seen that over the last many months more faith in corporations to take on issues like this one to step into things that they might not have stepped into before. >> yeah. but corporations speak with their money. so until they start stripping mitch mcconnell and nrcc of the tremendous amounts of money which prop up the political operations, then it's kind of all empty. you can send a tlaer is nletter nonbinding to any of them. they it continue to run on the anti-gun action platforms. i had a great conversation this week with michael ...

That is where he stands on the issue. >> that's right. >> we have an epidemic of violence of innocent people getting killed across the country in public places where they ought to be able to just live. so i wonder how does the republican party and the president of the united states and silent mitch mcconnell, who so far hasn't said anything and we'll give him time to make that statement, how can all of these issues actually be reconciled here on a policy front? >> well, i think this is going to be the debate between now and the november 2020 elections and will these elected officials, republic...

And on the policy front, we have seen progressive discussion on background checks and extremist protection orders. i'm waiting for the action to come from those talks and there's bipartisan proposals in congress right now, so when the president talks about pushing these things forward, these are actions that he can take and encourage both sides of the party to take as well. but in addition to that, we all know that preventing gun violence isn't just about policy or limiting who has access to guns. it's also about pairing those real policies like community solutions, like education on how to re...

Someone or has themselves been affected by gun violence. it's that dominant in our culture. it's that part of our every day. i was reading an article today about bulletproof backpacks for schoolkids. and i was like, when did back-to-school shopping become looking for bulletproof backpacks? this isn't the america that we should be providing. and i think it's down to all of us to force the way through to these solutions. >> part of the idea, i think, in sandy hook promise, was the idea of getting past some of the jargon and some of the knee-jerk sort of diads here where it's one thing or the oth...

Years ago. we can insult anyone, say anything, and he got away with it. and he still got elected president. the danger is at some point he won't. he's giving in to with the democrats want. to paraphrase "the wall street journal" editorial page, the democrats want this to be a referendum on his character. they are begging for that. here's the problem, also. 4.4 million voters who came out for barack obama in 2012 stayed at home in 2016. more than one-third of those voters were black. that's an issue. he needs to pay attention to it, because he might get to the point -- and you will never know w...