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Little too maybe dismissive, petulant, some might say arrogant. he called most members by their first name, i think sort of to be grateiating and friending, but it did seem to some, like me, a little condescending, and the only way to break the log jam is not on policy grounds. they are too far apart. it's to try and form the kind of bond like tip o'neil and ronald reagan had. i thought it was just too condescending and dismissive. >> what did you think about the president's performance and also the republicans. the expectations for republicans were so low after their last get together, can th...

>> brett kavanaugh says he's willing to talk to the senate judiciary committee, quote, in any way the committee deems appropriate. is there anything he could say that -- i know you oppose him on policy grounds. on judicial grounds. but on this issue, having to do with this accusation, is there anything he could say that would satisfy concerns you might have? >> i think that the challenge is he's already said something, right. he unequivocally denied the accusations and following up on simone's point, i think it's the strongest he could be on it. i think he has denied any wrongdoing in this way...

They had the informant in 2009, and yet congress, there was a lot of opposition to this deal in 2010 on policy grounds. imagine if they would have known that under this was a racketeering and bribery scheme. that could have been enough, that information alone probably would have stopped the deal from going forward. >> martha: you would think that would be information they would have wanted to know. if i let you go, do what is special counsel to look into this and is there a proceeding moving toward that? >> i think we need one, because the deputy attorney general now, ron rosenstein, was actua...

Majority of 52 republicans and working through certain budget processes you only need 50 to move forward you don't have a lot of space to work with. we have example one, two, three, four, on health care where they fell short over and over. >> never made it to four. >> we were like 3.7 or something like that. but so you look at what their major legislative issue is and it's tax reform where senate leadership, house leadership, where the rank and file, they're all-in on tax reform and the same type of scenario. need 50 votes to move it forward, have little margin for error and senator corker for...

Argument and that's the argument that was made. that's one of the arguments that persuaded the supreme court today. although, keep in mind, that the court only lifted the stay. it will hear the merits of the case in october. but, yes, you are right. but, as i said, the stronger argument against this travel ban is it's really bad policy. it doesn't accomplish the goal which is to make america safer. >> tucker: it doesn't?er you would argue the counter case that the more immigrants that we have from say somali coming into the country, the safer we are? what point are you making? >> what i would ...