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Most. in the united states we do not have affordable child care. we don't have jobs, especially for those at the middle income level that coincide with being a parent. >> right. so there are two policy interventions we could talk about that would make a difference. one is parental leave. we've been talking about it most. i suspect because we can make employers pay for it. but there's also child care. everything we know about evidence from other countries is that affordable child care makes a much bigger difference in terms of work force participation for women than parental leave. we've argued...

Change that and what can we see changed? >> there's a lot of policy interventions but the first thing we have to realize is that we believe in the divine right of capital today as we once believed in the divine right of kings. we have to stop believing that. steve: by u-uppercase-letter mean the shareholders and the owners rather than the workers. >> that's right. we believe that all the fruits of productivity, it belongs to the owners of companies in that they don't need to be shared by society and that they don't need to be shared by the workers. therefore, get rid of the workers. steve: do ...

Change that and what can we see changed? >> there's a lot of policy interventions but the first thing we have to realize is that we believe in the divine right of capital today as we once believed in the divine right of kings. we have to stop believing that. steve: by u-uppercase-letter mean the shareholders and the owners rather than the workers. >> that's right. we believe that all the fruits of productivity, it belongs to the owners of companies in that they don't need to be shared by society and that they don't need to be shared by the workers. therefore, get rid of the workers. steve: do ...

The stories would suggest. >> that's what the president announced this week in front of about 50 million people. >> the office is called voice, victims of immigration, crime engagement. we are providing a voice to those who have been ignored by our media and silenced by special interests. >> so that office will be doing what you're describing, presenting these anecdotes essentially. really tragic, sickening anecdotes, actual crimes that have been concerned. the concern you're describing is if the data doesn't back up the idea that immigrants are creating crime ks at a higher rate than american...

We're back. before we went to break we kind of zeroed in on this question about the structural factor, the structural economic factors and racial factors that play a role in the difficulties young men of color face and how you overcome them through small targeted policy interventions. you've been in your capacity to work on pilot programs. what's your feeling about that? >> i'm actually new to philanthropy. i spent most of my career as a civil rights attorney. i made a living, really, my life's cause to break down those barriers and that's still what i'm doing with philanthropy. people have to...