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President trump for this call? >> and per usual custom, are these talking points based on the official united states policy objectives? >> we operate under national security presidential memorandum four. it's available on the internet. that lays out how the president wants to be provided options for his decision. >> and there is an extensionive process to finalize any policy, is that right? >> sometimes. >> mr. morrison, you listened to this call on the 257b8, is that right? >> i did. >> where did you listen from? >> the white house situation

And the u.s. can't call all the shots. under this president, the eu is not a priority. learning about what happened, i kind of wish i poked him and said, hey, don't use cell phones. don't get into conversations with a president who asks you to do stuff that a completely out of the ordinary and against what our policy objectives are. >> i'm not sure that's your job, but that would have been nice, i guess. >> being a busy body, i guess. but seriously. the stakes are so high for our diplomacy around the world. we need our best and brightest doing it. i kind of feel sorry for the guy that he seeme...

President felt very comfortable trading a $400 million in assistance to ukraine for dirt on his opponent. so, listen, we've got a long way to go on this. anybody who was expecting an ah-ha big moment may have gone away not happy. but, listen, it's day one. >> what do you think? >> it's not a tv show. i mean, i understand that the hearings are on television and that, therefore, that's giving america an insight into these fact witnesses. but there doesn't have to be this moment that is going to change everybody's mind. each fact witness is there to present their perspective of the optic that the...

And that the president is trying to hold down china as a super power, seize them as an adversary. but is that unique? isn't it fair to say lots of people see china as a major threat? >> well, i think that china is one area of american foreign policy where there is some degree of common ground between democrats and republicans as they look at china and see that china is emerging as a challenger in terms of global power and influence. and i think that just speaks to what probably wbolton was doing all along. he had a cost/benefit analysis, am i getting something out of this, is the president pur...

Country with distinction for decades. it is someone who also is one of the first witnesses to this irregular back channel that the president established with rudy giuliani and the damage that it was doing to america's national security and foreign policy interests. how it was working in opposition, not in support, of u.s. policy objectives. ambassador yavonovitch had a well-earned reputation as a fighter of corruption, and she was working with ukraine to get ukraine to fight corruption. and so what does this irregular back channel sanctioned by the president do? it seeks to remove someone figh...