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They are going to be some of her subpoena supporters and democrats about her candidacy. that's who she has to try to appeal to tomorrow night. >> jeff, bernie sanders says he's not preparing at all and obviously as we said, in just the last couple of weeks. is that true, that he doesn't need to prepare, that he's arrogant or is it just posturing? he's preparing and doesn't want to admit it? >> reporter: well, the bernie sanders you see on the campaign trail is sort of the one you get. he's kind of a professor. he's rumpled and really preparing all summer long. he's been doing rallies across th...

Hillary clinton, by the way. which have you rather have? 30 pages on social security? >> she and jeb can both catch up in 2017 with the policy pages. right now they're going to have to figure out. >> i want a candidate who has policy papers. i am alone in america. i am alone. >> i want a candidate who has policy papers too but you need some kind of unifying theme to hold it all together. if that's a theme you can put on the hat, that's all the better. we got to find candidates who can do both. here's by 30 point plan to save america and read it on my website. americans are busy. it's not that ...

Your heart and what your gut is and what you're about. if you can convey that, you're beginning to get a sense of what she's about. you don't necessarily need to 30 policy papers at this point in the race as long as voters have a sense of who you are and what you're going for. >> you remember the 1960 election. john kennedy changed the way american politics was conducted. just did. it became, the tv became the medium and you had to play for the camera. i've got a feeling kristin is exactly right. 2016 changes everything. we have all of these outsiders teaching all of these insiders what to do ...

This particular campaign. and one thing, it's been 13 years since he ran for office. this is a huge difference now between politics then -- >> but chris, it's embarrassing when you have carly fiorina and ben carson and donald trump -- i mean, trump, compared to those three, has put out more policy -- >> yeah, carson, he's the jeb bush of those -- >> yeah. >> and carly fiorina, they haven't done anything yet remotely detailed. >> trump had, i thought, a fascinating insight, actually, into how people think about this. some people said, when are you going to put out more policy papers? i'll put o...

No, i think that there are lots of people who wanted there to be a race for different reasons. and they thought the only way they could make it a race was a full-scale frontal assault on her. >> we could run that for the entire -- that is incredible, fareed. how concerned do you think they are about this race? i heard peggy noonan the other day saying this is shades of 2008 all over again for hillary clinton. do you think they're worried? >> look, they have to be worried. they would be silly not to be worried. the truth of the matter is hillary clinton is an incredibly impressive public figure...