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Affordability plan and dug into what the gop does. the gop well, they are all trump. i think we have sound of that. let's take a look. >> ynow i know most of the attention is on a certain flamboyant front-runner. but don't let the circus distract you. if the you look at their policies, most of the other candidates are just trump without the pizazz or the hair. >> reporter: bernie sanders was second in line here and he was well received. a lot of cheers, there are people who like his policy points. he talked about the progressive movement. not talking about hillary or the other candidates ap wa...

I just think why don't we be who we are, say what we believe. do what we said we are going to do? >> lauren fox, how long can jeb bush hold out and not give up and sign the pledge like his brother george did? >> i think is one of those fundamental conservative policy points. i think it will be really hard for jeb bush as he moves forward and gets more and more pressure from the right. remember, he's more of a moderate in the race than many others. it will be harder and harder for him not to just sign this pledge. he has used the line over and over again, i cut $19 billion in taxes over my time...

We are, say what we believe. do what we said we are going to do? >> lauren fox, how long can jeb bush hold out and not give up and sign the pledge like his brother george did? >> i think is one of those fundamental conservative policy points. i think it will be really hard for jeb bush as he moves forward and gets more and more pressure from the right. remember, he's more of a moderate in the race than many others. it will be harder and harder for him not to just sign this pledge. he has used the line over and over again, i cut $19 billion in taxes over my time as governor of florida and i pla...

>> why not. >> he has nice numbers? >> getting huge numbers. 28,000 people. you couldn't get 28,000 in portland, oregon to go to a vegan cook instruction, let alone, though they may have had one, to a bernie sanders campaign event. that's enormous. that can translate into vote share. if you've got people, 28,000 people, that's huge. for that many people to turn out, he may be able to translate those in votes against hillary clinton, makes him a threat. >> is her camp nervous? >> they ought to be. if they're not nervous about sanders in specific, they ought to be worried about the energy he rep...

Perot was in the middle flanked by george bush and bill clinton. and the three of them, ross perot had all the great lines. he said, well, if you have better ideas on how to cut the deficit, i'm all ears. he ran away -- the snake had all the lines. wasn't that the old phrase? so you go in with an agenda where they want to be able to capitalize on personality. i don't know, chris, that anybody goes back and listens and scours the congressional record that these debates put down important policy points, but we always remember the moments like michael dukakis being asked what his reaction would b...