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Just put a tyler in there. can't we put a pierce in there? you walk all these oil paintings of the great, the icons. what president doesn't to want swing for the fences? >> i think may make him slightly different is what personal, political price he's willing to pay for that public -- what he believes is a policy priority. where other people would not that they would do it, but they would then decide maybe we're going to go x percent and so i think swinging through the fences. every president, every one of us in public life share that ambition. i will say that in a very positive way. they want...

Romney thing is designed to placate certain people. i would argue the interesting thing is mike flynn and rudy guiliani, these are two guys who view the radical islamic terrorism as the overriding policy priority. in a way, rudy would only amplify what mike flynn would bring to that job. >> there might be conflict there on russia. rudy guiliani is not where mike flynn is on russia. what about rudy's business background, he'd have to recuse himself? >> well, this is problematic. he's not just done business with a wide variety of companies, he's done business with companies strategically sensiti...

Polici policies. -- a strong case that people should go to healthcare.gov, consider the options that are available to them and sign up for health care. and the vast majority of people who do will be able to purchase health insurance for $75 a month or less. that is a policy priority that benefits the american people enormously since the affordable care act went into effect 20 million americans got access to health care. and, you know, we want to make sure as many americans as possible understand the opportunity that's available to them. the president-elect when he enters office will have his o...

Policy priority on some issue. but also it depends how rich the donor is. with addelson, people say he put $100 million in the campaigns. he says himself that's nothing. he makes that in two weeks on his dividends. so people don't understand the scale of the wealth that is accessible to these groups through super pacs. >> it is very hard to get your head around what it would mean to have a billion dollars at your disposal, right? so it's very hard to understand that, like, i remember going back and running the numbers on newt gingrich when he wrote them a check for i think $10 million back in ...

>> i think it's often friendship. sometimes it's access and a policy priority on some issue. but also it depends how rich the donor is. with addelson, people say he put $100 million in the campaigns. he says himself that's nothing. he makes that in two weeks on his dividends. so people don't understand the scale of the wealth that is accessible to these groups through super pacs. >> it is very hard to get your head around what it would mean to have a billion dollars at your disposal, right? so it's very hard to understand that, like, i remember going back and running the numbers on newt gingri...