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At the end of this process, there are going to be fewer people who have health care insurance in the country. conservatives say that's a good thing because if you have the federal government to get people covers, it causes premiums to go up. i don't know that we have in washington a good enough understanding of what's worked and what hasn't worked about obamacare to leap into this new area where fewer people are covered. it creates policy problems. i think real political problems down the road. conservatives more moderates who were balking at this didn't want to be responsible for leaving out ...

Clean repeal 17 months ago. >> why did the house relationship and why did trump try to rewrite the laws that cover one-fifth of america's economy in 17 days? >> yeah. that -- >> newt gingrich didn't even try to do that. >> that's a fundamental question. there were political problems, policy problems and process problems and typically good process will lead to better policy which leads to better politics. >> i just don't understand it. they're telling conservative republicans, we're going to alter one-fifth of the economy, and we're changing it while you sleep and you have to vote on a bill whe...

Hearts of conservatives to support this bill. i think if they went for a straight up obama care repeal they would have a better shot, but that causes certain policy problems which cause political problems. >> well, if you look at the white house making a few changes to the bill, they were reportedly agreed on, they include more tax credits for older lower income people and more control for states to manage their medicaid. congressman mark walker says he will vote for it now, but not everyone is on board. what is your take on whether this is going to pass on thursday? >> you know, i don't reall...

It's a real problem. the kkk, you know, are our home grown terrorists in this country. and that whole group of folks that bannon has promoted throughout the years are very sympathetic to the kkk. >> jonathan, as we head into the weekend and given what we just talked about, what's your sense of the white house and we can talk about bannon, what's your sense of how it's operating and whether they've got things kind of back on track? >> i think they are improving. look, the idea that this was a well oiled machine is, you know, would be disputed by and is disputed by very senior people inside whit...

And the opposition. there are those who may dispute that with the benefit of hindsight but i think those were the right choices, but that doesn't mitigate our feelings of great frustration at the loss of so many innocent lives, at the fact that this conflict has had impacts on neighboring countries as well as our friends and allies in europe, so this is a horrific challenge, it's one of the most difficult policy problems i've ever seen and i think that the difficult choices that president obama made will prove in retrospect to have been right but it doesn't mean we sleep any better at night kn...