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End every statement about a policy proposal with, "that's why we all need to come together and fix this problem," which is always staying on message. but what's interesting to me, doug, when you look at whether it's trump's campaign of 16, us versus them, the system is rigged against you, or elizabeth warren. this scandal is just symbolic of what, frankly, these populist politicians have been raging against. >> it's what the american people are so frustrated, with big institutions, right? that the rules don't seem to apply to people who are well off, the rich, corporations. that if you've got ...

Want to run a business as well, you don't get to run the platform. think of it this way, like in baseball, you can be an umpire or own one of the teams but you don't get to be an umpire and own the teams. >> you're a progressive, that's the wing of the party elizabeth warren is from. we're going to talk about bernie sanders a little later on in the show with you, so let's stick to warren. do you think this is a good policy proposal? >> i think she's right we need stronger antitrust law but i think it has to be a case-by-case basis to go after the privileging on platforms. let me give you the p...

Do you think this is a good policy proposal? >> i think she's right we need stronger antitrust law but i think it has to be a case-by-case basis to go after the privileging on platforms. let me give you the paradigm case, microsoft's case, where the government went after microsoft for tying the internet explorer. they said you can't privilege internet floorer. but the government never broke microsoft up. there's a difference to say whether you should privilege companies and make sure they aren't preferencing their own products versus breaking them up. >> let's take facebook as a case. if you w...

>> i politely disagree. we took the green new deal seriously as a policy proposal and do what we do with any policy proposal. we looked at the specific projects they had included in the green new deal. whether a transportation system. electricity grid powered by renewables, guaranteed jobs that include paid family leave, retirement benefits, health benefits, paid vacations. a variety of things that you could then go to the data and ask how much would this cost? and it turns out those are some fairly large numbers to receive the least. >> neil: for the low carbon electricity grid 5.4 trillion. ...

The previous two years. roy blunt is not exactly a bomb thrower but he has said on sunday that he could vote against this. we'll see if they can get that fourth vote of republicans who have expressed a concern about the president's action. this sets a precedent you can see future democratic presidents exercise. >> susan rice is one of my main problems with the way democrats are talking about this. nancy pelosi likes to say it's a constitutional issue but there are an enormous number of democrats who are saying they are perfectly fine with presidents using unwarranted emergency powers to implem...