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>> a christian conservative in the house has a policy record that appeals to many republican base voters, a record that appeals to republican base voters. if you're an anti-trumper he was on the trump pence, he was on the sign with donald trump. if you want to move on completely, why would you -- what's the lane? >> it seems like there's a new lane developing. trump policies without the trump chaos and mike pence is trying to plow that lane, kind of the ron desantis lane. it's not so much never trump, we liked what he did policy wise, but we're ready to go maga without, you know, king maga. >>...

Showing up any kind of gangster and thug mentality. you can wear all kinds of colors and be us thug. >> we should not be surprised when we see police officers act like police on the street. steve: think —- gangsters and thugs and bullies? police officers as far as i'm concerned that alone would disqualify the disgracefully pro- crime policy record as a tenant governor when he has recommended commutation 46 times more than ten times the average amount. unbelievably 13 were convicted murderers. many times the only vote to release the criminals.

Showing up any kind of gangster and thug mentality. you can wear all kinds of colors and be us thug. >> we should not be surprised when we see police officers act like police on the street. steve: think —- gangsters and thugs and bullies? police officers as far as i'm concerned that alone would disqualify the disgracefully pro- crime policy record as a tenant governor when he has recommended commutation 46 times more than ten times the average amount. unbelievably 13 were convicted murderers. many times the only vote to release the criminals.

Showing up any kind of gangster and thug mentality. you can wear all kinds of colors and be us thug. >> we should not be surprised when we see police officers act like police on the street. steve: think —- gangsters and thugs and bullies? police officers as far as i'm concerned that alone would disqualify the disgracefully pro- crime policy record as a tenant governor when he has recommended commutation 46 times more than ten times the average amount. unbelievably 13 were convicted murderers. many times the only vote to release the criminals.

Raised taxes on middle class hold holds. they can try to talk a better game. it's not going to serve them well because their voting record and overall policy record is speaking loud and clear and the polls are, too. >> bret: all right, harold. you are the head of the dnc or the dscc. what do you come up with ahead of november? what's the pitch? >> we reform bail reform law in the country. we do not revoke title 42. we say no new taxes on small business all across this country and we reposition and re-purpose every dollar that we have not spent on covid. the small businesses in small communitie...