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Policy side of things. the media is not above criticism. our industry wrongly assumes. on this show i did a 60-second summery and went viral online. people want to hear details when it affects their lives and i don't think we should so quickly get into the escalation, deescalation game without also doing substance. we can all improve no doubt about that. >> listen, let's not forget at the end of the day, it's the responsibility of every citizen to go out there and get that information. i'm convinced if you want that information and an engaged citizen that wants to know what is in the build bac...

Strong policies to help our communities. to do that, we have to talk about what those policies are. people might spend a little bit more if we're doing a great job on a policy side or a little less. the policy has to drive it and i feel like there hasn't been enough discussion on all sides and definitely for members of congress about what their policy priorities are to bring us together and get a bill passed. >> i think, congresswoman, you're right. that is part of the problem. i think people generally agree with the goals but it is the specifics and i guess when you hear the words priorities,...

What they're trying to do is bit of some threatening of sorts as well as trying to make the case politically for their party. one of the arguments that is being made behind the scenes is, you know, with the president or not with the president. that's something that's going to be the increasing argument that will happen between now and thursday. and also on the policy side, they'll try to make the case to their members that they are moving forward on that larger social safety net plan. what they're trying to do specifically is come up with some sort of framework agreemtd on that larger bill, an...

Assess that situationunfolding in del rio, texas. let me bring in texas democratic congr congressman joaquin castro. this is the latest humanitarian crisis. there's been little movement on the policy side. how do you explain this inaction to the american people? these scenes seem to repeat themselves over from time to time. and congress has not been able to pass meaningful immigration reform and get it signed by a president of either party. >> we've seen this around el paso, mcallen, where you've had encampments along the border, not to this size, but we've seen it where there are thousands of...

Their own population and as he puts it they're ordering mobiles more. i think this is a good moment, i just hope it has the results we are hoping for. >> people have every right to debate policies. they don't have the right to menace an attack but this is a policy debate. on the policy side, what may be difficult for the white house here, for every biden critic, tonight that looks to be true. >> well, there are people saying