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It's dawned on people in the sanders camp that the support -- not everyone who agrees with his ideas are not necessarily in his camp right now. certainly not in the course of one afternoon on sunday. >> let's go to bucket three, the bucket of ideas, the people who liked bernie sanders ideas, didn't necessarily think it was about him. to your point, amy, there are a number of candidates providing ideas, policy structures that, whether it's women of color, people of color, or anybody else, there seems to be a hunger for that. does that last in the long term? >> we're a year and a half out, but s...

Liked bernie sanders ideas, didn't necessarily think it was about him. to your point, amy, there are a number of candidates providing ideas, policy structures that, whether it's women of color, people of color, or anybody else, there seems to be a hunger for that. does that last in the long term? >> we're a year and a half out, but since we have such a large field, i think the bar is a lot higher. it's not just good intentions that are going to win. it's not name i.d. also. >> right. >> we talked about that earlier. biden polled really high because people knew his name. sanders polls very high...

The end that is mounting public pressure i think it will continue to do so there is nonsense and the pressure on the church from all parts of the globe one has to say and i think if they are not delivering on the fact of spiritual means the pope yes trying on the god lines those national bishop conferences which he talked about can go a hatch and they can decide what they do and how they would like to restore the lack of credibility by call pride saying with national authority to sparkle pride saying . with the victim congregations as diverse as these groups might be i think that's a very fair...