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Several years. since 2007, each of the last six straw polls, mitt romney has been either first or second. this is a place in 2008 where he dropped out. it is also in 2012 where he declared himself a severely conservative governor which insome in massachusetts pushed back against, of course. they feel like this is a place where it all starts for him and he had some very deep support and that was evident today. >> besides the thank yous, any policy stuff in there? any other specifics? >> well, he did say that he is still optimistic about the country that his election didn't make him pessimistic....

On body language. it's the way that he reached for it. service so awkward and so the opposite of being an alpha male. if he would just turn his whole body, grab it like a man, swig it up and we would be like chris christy keeps it real. >> he's dipping and diving and he just looked bizarre. >> well, victoria, we woent ever forget that swig. but it is obscure in a more serious discussion we should be having about mr. rubio, isn't it? i mean, in many ways, he's getting away with some of the most outrageous policy stuff by us talking about the swig. >> you're right, reverend. it was incredibly aw...

Somewhat. in today's boston globe massachusetts congressman barney frank, a key lgbt voice on the left has said, quote, as much as i regret what hagel said and resent what he said, the question now is going to be afghanistan. him scaling back the military. in terms of the policy stuff, if he would be rejected by the senate, it would be a setback for those things. secretary of state hillary clinton back to work this morning. high-level talks already planned for the end of the week. could benghazi testimony be the next thing to happen very soon? our question to you today, is chuck hagel too ...

Continuation of that sort of awkwardness that was originally -- haven't mapped out the policy stuff at all. ultimately, you do want to sort of position ryan as the kind of trillion dollar fix-it man but they also have to have a broader economic optimistic outlook that both of them have to share. they have to articulate it. it can't just be about look how lousy things are, this is the president's fault. they need to get together on really reclaiming a kind of optimistic outlook for the economy and the fact that their tax and regulatory package is the way to get there. they have an argument to m...

In any survey that says we need to change all of the things that the republicans are trying to redo. >> let me bring lawrence o'donnell and chris matthews into this from charlotte. in terms of talking about this, this policy shift, is this an important part of the message tonight? is this the policy stuff they're going to move on from? or is this going to be a continuing campaign thing? >> they're going to stay on health care, because they have to, that's the way the republicans are coming at them. they have found a way tonight, that is to find individual components of the bill, like lifetime ...