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Continuation of that sort of awkwardness that was originally -- haven't mapped out the policy stuff at all. ultimately, you do want to sort of position ryan as the kind of trillion dollar fix-it man but they also have to have a broader economic optimistic outlook that both of them have to share. they have to articulate it. it can't just be about look how lousy things are, this is the president's fault. they need to get together on really reclaiming a kind of optimistic outlook for the economy and the fact that their tax and regulatory package is the way to get there. they have an argument to m...

Thinks he will win election regardless of the day-to-day stuff. >> it was interesting when scott walker on this sort of magical mitt-stry tour, i can't get enough of that, walker clarified romney's assessment of the recall, saying he didn't want to fire teachers and policemen and firefighters and also said that romney quote, needs a vision and quote, a message, richard wolffe, which is not exactly what you want to hear. we know romney has a surrogate problem but that's not the greatest message to be hearing over the weekend and during -- >> this is a governor who is -- who just got a new lease...

And see him as a one-termer. >> while i think that's sort of despicable, it's almost like politics ain't bean bag. is that sort of to be expected -- >> or as your friend mitt says, politics isn't the bean bag. >> politics is not sport. jonathan chait, just playing that sound, in terms of we've talked about mitt romney's surrogate problem. the president has had some issue with folks who are supposed to be in his corner saying things that are not necessarily on message. how much of an issue do you think that is? >> everyone has a surrogate problem because there are hundreds of people who are sur...

Republicans seem to have their mojo back, they appear more united than ever behind mitt romney, coming off this victory in washington and the president seems to have this surrogate problem undercutting the president's message. does the obama campaign seem off its game right now? >> not at all. thomas, i respect you and your colleagues at this network and around the country and the great national media, but a lot of times we all get caught up in the process pieces. this campaign, the campaign that i am supporting is, you know, it's about the citizens and the people of this country in a grass ro...

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