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Deterrent, using cruelty to children as a policy tool. and the consequences are going to be lifelong. and this is what congressional oversight looks like. this is a very good choice by the democrats, to highlight this, because it gets lost in all the rhetoric about the wall and open borders and all of this sort of thing, that in fact you have a man-made, administration-created, humanitarian nightmare that is not over. >> you've covered congress, you talk to these people all the time. diane degette from colorado doesn't do things lightly. she is going to really try to get to the bottom of this....

American people should appreciate. they are willing to negotiate on border security. i heard the president talk about steel slats. we have more. if there needs to be an addit n additional 20 miles, let's negotiate that. you can't negotiate in a postage situation. no president, republican or democrat should say i'm going to get my way or i'm going to stop paying people that keep us safe at airports, nowhere in the constitution does it say that anybody, president, senator, or congressm congressman, has that as a tool. as i keep telling my republican friends, there will be a democratic president ...

Understood, judging from what we've heard from the president of the new york fed. and then second, the fed has to realize that it cannot keep a really important policy tool on automatic pilot. that it needs to be more sensitive to what's happening. and i think that the fed can regain control and we can stop the self-inflicted wounds. sandra: do you think the president's criticism of jerome powell and his actions as the federal reserve chairman, are they warranted? >> no, i think the president has a point in saying fed, get a feel for what's going onioned the strict narrow domestic economy. i t...

Understood, judging from what we've heard from the president of the new york fed. and then second, the fed has to realize that it cannot keep a really important policy tool on automatic pilot. that it needs to be more sensitive to what's happening. and i think that the fed can regain control and we can stop the self-inflicted wounds. sandra: do you think the president's criticism of jerome powell and his actions as the federal reserve chairman, are they warranted? >> no, i think the president has a point in saying fed, get a feel for what's going onioned the strict narrow domestic economy. i t...

We've heard from the president of the new york fed. and then second, the fed has to realize that it cannot keep a really important policy tool on automatic pilot. that it needs to be more sensitive to what's happening. and i think that the fed can regain control and we can stop the self-inflicted wounds. sandra: do you think the president's criticism of jerome powell and his actions as the federal reserve chairman, are they warranted? >> no, i think the president has a point in saying fed, get a feel for what's going onioned the strict narrow domestic economy. i think you don't want to cross o...