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Was going to ask rick. do you think -- i think that the bucket of immigration policies, that is the bucket in which we'll find the beginning of not being the country we thought we were. >> yes, and no. we've been a country with a horrific immigration history. even the refugee debates we turned away jews fleeing nazi-dominated europe who had come here on a boat and we sent them back to europe. we've had a bad history when it comes to immigration. what we're seeing now in my estimation is an administration that is actually owning it in a way that past administrations haven't. past administration...

The russia investigation that they have been dying to get answered. they are not going to swap that all away because others want to talk about health care. those investigations are going forward. elijah cummings who has a lot of experience running these kinds of investigations, there is a lot of pent up demand from democrats to look into these things. sometimes the public doesn't always have the appetite for that. >> right. >> they are looking at their health care bill every month. >> they are going to have to strike that balance. i think a lot of democrats look at this election as the most im...

>> for such a long time sanctions have been the vice that the international community has used, the u.s. has levied them, we've seen international sanctions levied by the united nations. i wonder what role they're playing going north. you had this guy second in command when he's on a sanctions list to meet with the president of the united states. i wonder about the economic considerations here, how much pressure the u.s. can apply via the economy, how much of an enticement that is for north korea to do a deal at this table or tables down the line, the prospects here of improving the economy. >...

>> exactly. so i've never been for wide-ranging sanctions. i believe that russia is an occupied country and there is 145 million russians who are suffering under this occupation. and you have a very small number of people stealing resources for their own benefit and vladimir putin is at the top of the small pyramid of people stealing and there is no point in punishing the russian people who are being punished enough and who should be punished is vladimir putin and the people around him holding his money. and so this is the perfect policy tool. >> thank you for joining me. bill bow ard, let's t...

The results of say the steel and aluminum tariffs the other day. it's as if the administration sees tariffs and more broadly protectionism as an abstract concept rather than as actually a policy tool that has real implications for american producers and consumers both directly and when others retaliate. it's just not being thought through, and it's one of the reasons the market is beginning to tank. this administration has got to be really careful. they inherited a strong market. they added all sorts of fiscal stimulus because of tax cuts and spending increases but now among other things, the ...