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And mike, i understand that the white house and republicans are saying, oh, the support for impeachment and removal hasn't shot up. but just the number of 50%. if 50% of americans want you impeached and removed from office, that's not really good news for a presidency, is it? >> well, john, it's very interesting. i never look at just one poll. i always look at a number of polls. but i also read the cross tops and read the cross tabs of this palm. the poll has sampled into 25% of republicans. and that's no b.s. and so, look, it's not illegitimate poll of the people it was polled i'm sure the nu...

But i also read the cross tops and read the cross tabs of this palm. the poll has sampled into 25% of republicans. and that's no b.s. and so, look, it's not illegitimate poll of the people it was polled i'm sure the numbers are right. but it's got a massive number of independents in it. and when you look at the emerson college poll that came out, another serious poll, the -- whether or not to impeach went down 11 points during the hearings. the gallup poll another serious poll came out and literally bounced back to where impeachment was before the hearings began. >> but i'll say, mike -- i gue...