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I mean, you can't -- like i don't know if trump is falling asleep or if he's just resting his eyes, but it is not boring, it is riveting. >> you can watch prosecuting donald trump: witness to history tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc and streaming on peacock as well. two meanwhile, new polling telling former president trump scrotal conviction is most americans agree with this verdict, but their opinions on the race have not changed. an nbc news -- paul found 50% of americans support the guilty verdict, while 27% say it was not correct. however, 23% said they do not know. 49% of respondents...

Concern about our children, concerned about the environment, about representation, and i think a lot of things are going to resonate with audiences. >> i grew up in canada, where a long time ago, we learned that indigenous people would prefer to be referred to by their tribe, in many cases. one thing that comes up in this special's identity and what language non native people should use to refer to americas indigenous people. you specifically spoke about that. what is your take? >> we actually did a poll back in 2020, where we surveyed nearly 6000 native americans in 50 states and asked that v...

Donald trump is a big deal, if that is in fact what is happening. and from the sort of bread crumbs that we have gotten in recent weeks, from the fake electors, who now have immunity deals with prosecutors and are cooperating, the lawyers that have been implicated -- just the movement and momentum that we are seeing -- what is your expectation here? and how potentially damning is it that you have these cooperating witnesses? >> so, it's reading tea leaves, as you say. but i do think that reasonable prosecutors would say that, in light of the background of fani willis being an expert in rico an...

And racketeering prosecutions, and because we've seen a wide neck has -- a lot of people forget, this has been going on for two years. >> yeah. >> give us occasion has been having two years to be able to grow. it's only lightly that you've been seeing an investigation, and yet a poll back, the pullback being the immunity deals that were offered with eight of the 16 fake electors that participated in that december 2020 meeting wherein they refused to certify the biden when -- i think you see the possibility that -- i mean, if we are going to temper expectations, which we should do -- lawyers, i...

Look at those state and these are folks that are not getting rich off of helping secure elections. >> that is exactly right. >> they're doing their job to help protect democracy. >> yeah. in fact, for most of our history, these are people who did their jobs in the background and they were doing it because they wanted to serve their neighbors and their community because they wanted to serve our democracy. and you know, since 2020, what election workers have been facing are unrelentless threats. it sounds like it is getting worse during the period right before the election. but we're talking abo...