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>> the conventional wisdom's of midterms elections are a referendum on the sitting president in his party. the truth is, midterms are more of a reckoning. in the past century, only two first-time presidents have gained house seats in the -- and republicans on the georgia bush picked up eight seats in 2002. the first federal elections after 9/11 and the launch of the war and afghanistan. both were special, historical cases and to tell the truth, both were very small games. in fact, since gerald ford was in office, the sitting president party has lost an average of more than 30 congressional sea...

>> kennedy: he should be ready for pointed attacks, in terms of the 1994 crime bill. which is what cory booker has gone after. he's also -- it's not just kamala harris, it's cory booker. >> harris: does anybody call out kamala harris on the truthfulness of bussing at all that? >> kennedy: it doesn't matter. she had a poll bump up but she fizzled out. joe biden has increased his lead. >> chris: member, at this point during 2011 , right after we saw perry rising, we saw herman cain rising. you end up running for election bruised and battered. even if biden wins he's going to have it. >> harris: ...

Mistake for the both of them to relive the last debate. people do not want to hear about 40 years ago. they want to hear where are you going to take us, infrastructure, k 12. >> i would just say not so sure they don't want to hear about 40 years ago because we saw the fundraising bump and the poll bump after she brought it up in the last debate. i'll take your word for it. i would like to ask you a little more about warren, sanders and buttigieg. and our polling out of the state of iowa last month was that it's not just warren who is pulling from sanders on the liberal vote, it's pete buttigie...

This becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. you have a bad debate or you're not in the debate, you don't get the poll bump, if you don't get the poll bump, you don't get the donor bump and make less and less money. so the one thing about campaigns, especially for folks who have never done one, the money is always going out, especially when you're running for a lot of these campaigns two, three, four-state types of races. >> right. >> so there is always going to be a problem with money. but if it doesn't come in, it gets worse real fast. i think the problem for some of these candidates is going to...

Not in the debate, you don't get the poll bump, if you don't get the poll bump, you don't get the donor bump and make less and less money. so the one thing about campaigns, especially for folks who have never done one, the money is always going out, especially when you're running for a lot of these campaigns two, three, four-state types of races. >> right. >> so there is always going to be a problem with money. but if it doesn't come in, it gets worse real fast. i think the problem for some of these candidates is going to be really simple, you know, your going to have 20 in these next two deba...