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Down. >> how about the new national republican poll? look at the number trump is getting. he's crossed that 30% threshold. how significant is that? >> in some ways it shows you that his lead continues to sustain itself, alex. and to me, this poll kind of showses that the reality of what's going on. you have donald trump ahead. ben carson in second place. when you add their percentages together, you get more than 50% of the republican electorate which suggests to me that republicans right now want outsiders rather than establishment insiders. but do also keep this perspective in mind. it wasn't...

Richard. so is he going to -- did he pay the price in the mid-terms, is he going to pay the price now that post mid-term he's done this immigration action? >> there are other polls taken exactly the same time that show by 2-1 or more that the public does not want to throw undocumented immigrants out of the country -- >> different question though. >> i understand. that they don't think suing over this is wise. they think congress should in fact do something. look, the fact of the matter is i think what this does is set up a ferocious problem for the republicans in the presidential nomination pr...

Otherwise. they also believe that president obama is moving towards socialism. 88% of them. where do you think they get their information? >> i don't know. i don't know how they define socialism. it's interesting that the tea party members as you said, are older, whiter, more male than the general population. i have thought all along and i think the poll kind of bears out the theory that number one, there are a lot of people in this country who have a sense of losing something. have a sense that the country's greatest years may not still lie before it, that some sort of way of life or some vis...