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Clever line. >> bret: there is joe biden sticking with obamacare, pushing back against medicare for all. new nbc "wall street journal" poll out today on this head-to-head matchups against president trump and there you see biden positioned best, but we've seen the president react to these polls. he says "here we go with a fake pulse, just like what happened with the election constructed hillary clinton, near times, "washington post," they all got it wrong on purpose. suppression polls so early, they will never learn. a new poll out in hampshire tonight has very interesting results. joe biden up...

Biden had, it didn't really nudge his support with african-americans. and i think there is something to say to name i.d., number one, but also spending eight years with the first african-american president. rev, i believe you even said this a week ago maybe. he was there fighting on behalf of president obama. i think a lot of african-americans will look at that and say, look, the guy isn't perfect, he made some mistakes, he's finally coming to apologize, a little late, but he was there for eight years and he was really protecting our first black president that a lot of african-americans love a...

12 days, 10 days, ahead, of the second debate? >> well, the first poll, rev, i know everyone always talks about how hillary clinton beat donald trump as far as popular vote is concerned, that doesn't matter. you have to win the electoral college. when you look at the key states that delivered the electoral college to him,margins. there's this notion it's difficult to beat an incumbent. i would typically agree with that historically speaking. those incumbents usually win by greater margins than trump. you have states where trump won by 10,000 votes, 44,000 votes. you look at demographic groups ...

Democrats do in fact win. obviously we need to do things from just a purely campaign political stamt. we have to do those things as well, but i think the problem is that a lot of democrats are voting based on or selecting people i should say in their minds based on who they think can or cannot win on who's speaking to their heart and actually inspiring them and motivating them. >> those are starting to merge now. you have joe biden on top but we have a new wall street journal poll out, still on top. but oats not that high for someone who was a former vice president, he's just above elizabeth w...

There will be no opening statements. julian kcastro, cory booker, elizabeth warren, beto o'rourke, amy klobuchar, jay inslee and john delainy. there is some sense to that ord order. i'll have steve kornacki tell you about that. where do the candidates stand? >> brand new poll out. they have been doing a weekly tracking poll in the democratic race. brand new numbers this morning. here they are. this is the state of democratic race heading into the first debate. joe biden, after a week of some controversy for joe biden, lots of talk about the comments he made at a fund-raiser about working with ...