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I actually think that it's not enough for them to say, you have 4.1% growth rate. nobody understands what that means. >> laura: personalize the story, correct? >> personalize it, and two years from now, the speakerze nancy pelosi, i think they actually have to use her in the campaign. >> laura: you undo the gains that you made in the last two years. separate what you don't likeo about trump's tweets, undo it all. and then how are you doing? there is a new poll out, harris neil poll that came out just an hour ago or so, about mueller going to your point. they believe the bias has spurred trump,...

I'll tell you this, no issue divides the american people as sharply, painfully as destructively as immigration. the president wants to exploit it for his own good and the democrats want to exploit it for their own good. they know nothing will get voters to the polls more than this topic. >> julie: according to an nbc news "wall street journal" poll out last week, 39% say they would be more likely to cast a ballot for a candidate that supports donald trump's policies on immigration and border security and 49% say they would be less likely to back a candidate that supports trump. so immigration ...

>> nevada. i think that happens. it's all the holds that are just -- you have to run the whole board. >> opportunity, also. if you look at the polling right now, mississippi is even. that's craze. >> i tennessee, first big poll out of tennessee, where democrats recruited a former democratic governor. >> a lot to do when you combine it this way. it cuts both ways. goes against the democrats, it happens one way. when it goes against the republicans, like it may this

Your own business separate from the white house. >> there's a new poll out, joe, which show few americans think highly of the president's daughter ivanka and jared kushner when they first started serving as senior advisors. are jared and ivanka liability or given all the instability should they fight to stay on as long as possible? >> i agree, i think they should leave. if i had been president i would not want them to come in in the first place. working in the white house is serious business and you have to understand what you're doing and there are lots of ways you can get in trouble and clea...

>> absolutely. >> julie: the lawyer will not want him to put himself a compromising position. you have nothing to hide, why not. >> you got it. >> julie: thank you both. appreciate it. >> jon: we have new fox poll out who voters blame for the three day government shutdown. and where the approval rating for the congress stands right now. plus president trump sending warning to turkey's president. what they doesed in a phone -- discussed in a phone call.