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But it's interesting that warnock's deep association with faith is not making a difference. i have people active in the pro-life movement down in georgia say i don't know if we should believe those women and if they do, i had one woman tell me, it blew my mind, that he has so many children out of wedlock being why would he pay for an abortion? so the ornate rationalizations people put in place that they're not voting for the reverend but faith drives their poll titics, have to take faith back and st history shows that's a dangerous line. >> and separation of church and state. >> that's importa...

Faraday box to block all recording. >> you will see a lot of people sort of handlely trying to tape one another or threaten each other with the existence of tapes more than we'll see necessarily, you know, john brennan or somebody in the closet getting all the secret tapes inside the white house. this is a b level of non stars -- people who are not ready of primetime poll titics until now. it is not a surprise that they act in ways defide the description. and it is not surprising they are freaked out right now. the fact that there is tapes of such good audio coming out of the white house. >> o...

Now you're able to travel to 23 countries. what was that personal experience for you? do you take for granted the fact that today you have the ability to travel on a moment's notice where these refugees and where you once yourself couldn't even move? >> my experience, growing up, my father was exiled. that teaches me we have to give our voice to the people that never have a voice. in art i do have some ability to make a film, make installation in new york city and to speak out, to really act on those issues. want just watching it. so i think that is responsibility. >> there's always some criti...

Man in poll titics. why do you think it is you've got gained more attraction. >> i think it's unknown. waer being led by the nose by the polls and there's not much evidence they're accurate. everybody said the democrat was going to win. do you think they might be off a little bit in a 12 person race months in advance? almost every poll has well over half of the people undecided. they say who are you leaning towards? we have a poll of leaners and what is a mistake to base our nauz coverage on it and we're letting one person dominate. it will be bad for the country. i don't think he's a serious ...

Only this presidential race but in american poll titics in gene. as we look at the landscape, do you think it's an uncommonly partisan moment for the country or do you think it's part and parcel -- >> i think that, i don't know that i'm qualified to offer that analysis. if you look at the little bits of american history and how nasty it was when this paper and that paper and i was like, an a marie is not even a human being. women are property, what are we talking to her for? and he is saying i'm gay and -- gay people don't exist as human beings. okay. i mean, so where we are today -- >> we hav...