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Not having to co-pay for some preventive care that they received. but they're getting those benefits. that's already happening. that's already in place today. it's been going on for several years. those are the benefits of obama care, the law that republicans want to repeal. although it's interesting, when you ask republicans whether they would repeal the benefits i just mentioned, when you say to them well, do you think it's the right thing to do to let young people stay on their parents' plans so they can keep insurance, or do you want to prevent seniors from getting more discounts on their ...

National conversation about the specifics and details, medicare, the women's issues, how do you give wealthy people trillions in tax cuts and pay for it? you pay for it by going to the middle class, of course. now that you have the details, those details, they don't poll well. they don't sit well with the american people. it's a real problem. it's a problem rand paul is also going to have, which i think is these guys may have big ideas, and yes, the media loves them, but you get down to the details. once the people hear the policy specifics, they really turn away. >> especially when it comes t...

>> i think that's why in the last nfl player lockout there was a lot of sympathy for the players. usually these things break down, millionaires versus billionaires. people were saying in a way they never have before, these guys are putting their heads on the line. even beyond public perception of unions and what we think, it's a little bit like the old line about congress where congress is unpopular but you like your congressman. i think we've seen a lot of examples about where unions don't poll well. when a strike happens to the people they work with, like in chicago, those teachers, public o...

>> he never starts a conversation by saying, what's the best political decision here? what will help us the most? never. [crowd chanting]. >> he wasn't going to back out just because it got hard, just because it didn't poll well. that's just never been who he is. it is certainly not how he will ever govern this country. >> when my mom got cancer, she wasn't a wealthy woman. and it pretty much drained all her resources. >> watching your mother die of something that could have been prevented, that's a tough thing to deal with. >> the reason he pushed ahead, knowing that there could be horrible p...

>> he never starts a conversation by saying what's the best political decision here? what will help us the most? never. >> so he wasn't going to back out just because it got hard. just because it didn't poll well. that's just never been who he is, and it's certainly not how he will ever govern this country. >> when my mom got cancer, she wasn't a wealthy woman. and it drained all her resources. >> watching your mother die of something that could have been prevented, that's a tough thing to deal with. >> the reason he pushed ahead knowing that there could be horrible political consequences for ...