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And a half and the supplier base for the u.s. military? >> yes, absolutely, there is a concern. there are multiple concerns. it's not as president west or the united states -- as if the west or the united states, you know, there aren't divisions throughout the community of nations and institutions that are supporting. there's concerns about guns versus butter and, you know, as a global, as the global economy is suffering for a range of reasons starting with covid, this war, energy and so on. so there's a concern than how much the u.s. can sustain conflict given those very serious concerns. als...

Basically, phony populism that has arisen as globalization, has cut off a core set of workers around the world from the benefits that they thought that they were going to get. and in many cases, in donald trump's movement in the united states and countries overseas, you're seeing authoritarian leaders masquerading as pop lists. this is the donald trump only i can fix this. and you're seeing this with hungary, you're seeing this with erdogan in turkey. and u.s. intelligence is warning a lot about these days. this slip away from liberal democracy that ten years ago

>> professor, is there some reality to the fact that this is now in the news and you can see it from space and sao paulo gets thrust into dark in the mid of day from a smoke cloud is this going to move the government to say, okay. maybe this is out of hand? >> like a lot of pop lists he has already demonstrated when he gets criticized internationally that is something that he must be doing something right and plays to his base. that money from germany and norway wasn't economic development money but it was money contributed by countries to the amazon fund which is the largest, most important i...