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There is, of course, just the sight of the two of them together, but also some of the controversy surrounding canonization of both of these figures, john paul ii, the question of pedophilia in the catholic church, one thing that's been talked about a lot this week. >> they're very excited about this. the real observation i have about this is that it's brilliant politics among other things. you take -- you canonize two pops popes at one. a more conservative leaning pope and the great liberalizer of the catholic church. it's an interesting lesson for our political parties. he's building a big te...

Our round table. there is, of course, just the sight of the two of them together, but also some of the controversy surrounding canonization of both of these figures, john paul ii, the question of pedophilia in the catholic church, one thing that's been talked about a lot this week. >> they're very excited about this. the real observation i have about this is that it's brilliant politics among other things. you take -- you canonize two pops popes at one. a more conservative leaning pope and the great liberalizer of the catholic church. it's an interesting lesson for our political parties. he's ...